BattleFront 3 Rumor

[Zabka]

I find it hard to believe that in 3 years we will have many exclusives of any sort that aren't first party. By then, the learning curve on the PS3 should make it a lot easier (and Sony is working on development tools to make it easier as well---they have already pushed out their next version of development tools).

So I would expect EA, take 2 and all the others to make games multiplatform. Socom will stay PS3 because zipper is owned by sony. Halo will stay 360. Other than stuff like that---I am not sure.

I agree that memory is not an issue at all for the PS3--it has a bigger hard drive (other than v the Elite). Although the ability of the 360 to work with the PC could make the storage issue less relevant.

I still find it hard to believe that the 360 will get an exclusive on these. LA has done a better job in xbox than ps2. But Free Radical's successes were ps2 exclusives, werent' they? I tend to believe, that most of this is just wheel spinning from Star Wars fans with nothing better to do.

And as for when we should expect to see a SWBF3? I would bet it will coincide with some major Star Wars initiative. The way that the DVD launches were timed with the game launches.

[FLATLINE]

I could be wrong and someone may have already corrected this but as far as the patches are concerned. The reason Xbox gets all the patches and cool addon downloads is because its a subscriber service. Playstation doesnt charge for internet gaming like XBox does. So why would they waste their time developing these things for us when they know they cant charge. This is a major flaw for us PS2/3 owners. One other thing. Ive seen a few times that Pandemic definetly wont be developing a BF3. This decision I thought was made months ago. As to who will be doing the next is whats up in the air. And enough of all this Exclusive crap. We should all be able to play together rgardless of system. Whether its XBOX, PS or PC. Im well aware of the hurdles involved to make this happen but I dont want to hear excuses. I play Playstation simply because i always liked the games but mostly because the controller was comfortable to me. other than that I could care less who makes my game system

[Deslock]

"Enough of all this Exclusive crap. We should all be able to play together rgardless of system. Whether its XBOX, PS or PC."

I concur. It's not good for gamers in any way. How can it help the sales of a game if it's exclusive?. My GF is HUUUUGE zombie fan, and was happily awaiting "Dead Rising", only to be sadly dissappointed that it was only for the 360.

And PC gaming is huge economic community, but yet Halo2 still hasn't been made for the PC. Very stupid mistake by Microsucks. "Ooooo, they love the game so we'll make the next one X-Box only, so if they love it sooooo much, they'll be forced to by the new system.

Nope.

But yet I still get bitched out about it. To this day.

I haven't a clue why Lucasarts is so buddy buddy with Microsucks. If they make BF3 an X-Box exclusive, they will be pissing off a major amount of the gaming community. It just wouldn't make sense. PS2 owners still make up the largest number of system owners. But yet I can see BF3 being made only for the next-gen systems. Bad decision, but it's not mine to make. They've been doing this in the PC gaming field for years. The demand for better graphics, forces players to either update their computers, or buy new ones.

SWBF2 came out for the PC, Ps2, X-box, and the Psp. Gamecube owners got hosed. Prolly because they didn't have online play. But yet the latest Rogue Leader came out only for the gamecube, and Resident Evil 4 also.
It was later released on the PS2, and was a HUGE hit. I don't know why they love to manipulate us so much. We don't like it, and they lose sales.

Who the heck knows.

BF1 was good, could've been better. BF2 gave us new maps, and characters, but in my opinion wasn't as good as BF1. No way to join buddies in game, and now the mics work on and off. God I could go on and on.

Bah. Rushed crappy games with no official LA servers, and then no glitch or map support at all for the PS2. As stupid as it would be, It would not suprise me one bit if SWBF3 was never made. For whatever reasons, most game developers just won't listen to us. Some do, and have learned.

It's actually quite simple. All we want is lag free games, with the ability to join our friends. The ability to have our own "passworded" games. The chance to have our own maps where you can turn certain vehicles and weapons on or off. And an accurate system in place to boot/ban problem players.

That's all.

Why is that so hard for them to grasp?

*Sighs*....

[Zabka]

I could be wrong and someone may have already corrected this but as far as the patches are concerned. The reason Xbox gets all the patches and cool addon downloads is because its a subscriber service. Playstation doesnt charge for internet gaming like XBox does. So why would they waste their time developing these things for us when they know they cant charge. This is a major flaw for us PS2/3 owners.

I am not sure this is the reason. At $4.16 a a month, with all the servers that this amount gives, I am not certain that MSFT is looking to pay Pandemic to fix stuff in a game with its recurring revenue source to fix a game that doesn't actually add more xbox live users. It could be that there are differences in the license agreements where MSFT requires some level of support afterward in exchange for different license fees since nobody would pay for crappy online service if they could get crappy online service for free. But that would speak more to the business model and priorities than simply MSFT paying them out of LIVE fees. That doesn't make much sense for msft. The downloadable content which is not free makes sense, but patches to the game? That is unlikely since every game would simply need to be made with a need for patches in order to extract more money from MSFT and they would wise up in quick fashion.

I think there is probably some economic benefit to the developer as a result of the business model, but that is a little different than msft paying them off. It is more about the way they choose to run their online business than anything else. Again--if the service sucked, nobody would want to pay for it--so on some level, the business model has helped ensure that the games are supported and the servers work.

As for the exclusivity arguments--hardware sales are never as profitable as software sales on a gross margin basis. I think with the advent of Vista, you will see that MSFT is not looking necessarily to just boost its console sales---I think they want greater software sales and LIVE fees. Console sales are a means to that end, but not an end in and of itself.

[Kamui]

You know Deslock,the Gamecube was pretty underrated and it did have online support....for at least 2 games although the online thing wasn't really boasted by nintendo sadly.

I miss back then when it was just Sega Vs Nintendo and when Microsoft knew its place back then.

[Deslock]

I liked the gamecube. Lotsa kid and family friendly games. One of my fave games of all time is Tetris. No awesome graphics, no online support, no bloody deaths, boobz, bad words and destruction.

A truly fun game doesn't need that. Just look at the awesome Sims games.

I still have my original Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, two PS2's, and three gameboys. And yes, I do still mess with them all from time to time. Shining Force on the Genesis is still and deep awesome game, and now they have a new one for the PS2 that I'm looking forward to getting. Gosh, to think back to the fuss all caused about the "fatalities" on the original Mortal Kombat...lol.

One interview with Bill Gates that I saw he explained his philosophy on how he wants Microsucks technology to be an integral part of everyone's home. Be it through their computer, gaming system, entertainment systems, and even having control of your home enviroment. Computer controlled ovens, appliances, and even controlling the lighting in your home.

It's very creepy to me to have one company trying to figure out a way to control everything in my home. And I'm sure trying to figure out a way for me to pay them for it. I'll hit the light switch myself thank you very much. I don't want everything in my home hardwired into Microsoft.

Maybe that's his dream, but it sure as Hell isn't mine. One company trying to figure out a way to control most of the things I interact with is creepy. Too much control. Bleech. No thanks. 8O

[Rdaug27]

Why does everyone think Free Radical will be doing the next SWBF? About 3 months before LA and Free Radical made a deal, LA made a deal with Day 1 Studios. All you 360 owners should know that they made the game F.E.A.R. They also made the MechAssault games for the Xbox. How would that compare to Free Radical developing the game? (anyone would be better than Pandemic I think 8O )

[Zabka]

http://www.day1studios.com/news_pr_aug8_lucas_arts.htm

LucasArts, of course, is most famous for its myriad games based on properties from its sister company, Lucasfilm. However, it describes its collaboration with Day 1 as a "new next-generation entertainment franchise." Though some speculate that the game could be the rumored Darth Vader back-story game, it appears more likely that it will be set outside the Star Wars universe which has inspired the majority of LucasArts games.

This is supposed to be a new franchise. I think that is why people are so focused on Free Radical. From the announcement, people have been speculating it would be swbf3. It has been kept pretty top secret though.

[Deslock]

But why the big hush hush then? They know the fans want a new BF game, wouldn't it be better to build up anticipation?

I really don't think Pandemic is to blame for BF2. They were forced to rush it, so it could come out with the DVD. Thay can be blamed for no patch though. Yes, it probably would have cost them some money, but their company's rep was on the line. Better to have satified costumers and a good reputation, than to make a few quick bucks and alienate your customer base.

[Zabka]

I think it makes total sense to not announce it yet. Given the fan base of Star Wars generally speaking and SWBF in particular, to announce a new SWBF3 is only asking for too much scrutiny of everything. Perfect example is Silicon Knights' Too Human. The scenes I have seen look pretty awesome. But at last year's E3, they previewed some works in progress that looked really weak---so all the blogs, magazines, and fans just have RIPPED it apart. A tremendous amount of negative press for them so that instead of being able to issue an anxiously awaited game, they are going to put out a game that is going to get combed over with a biased, already skeptical view that will likely result in lukewarm reviews to start since people are already invested in the negative view.

If they announce SWBF3, people will be trying to swipe whatever they can. There will also be a great deal of pressure to release any bits, no matter how incomplete, to satiate the needs of rabid Star Wars fans. But the thing about a franchise like this is that they will have a tough time pleasing people without a near finished product (and even then, the complaints will flow).

While it may not suit us as fans, I think it makes perfect sense if Free Radical is doing SWBF3 for them to keep it under raps until they have something meaningful to share.

As for Pandemic--I didn't realize they had been bought by Bioware. Bioware did KOTOR, Mass Effect (coming soon), Baldur's gate. Their performance on SWBF2 is viewed differently for me having played the xbox version vs. the ps2 version. It's much better done on the xbox--so I don't know who to blame for putting out that shoulda-been-a-beta-SWBF2 on the PS2.

[norm]

You have to remember that Lusas wants to put out a Star Wars TV show within the next year or two. If I had to play the odds I bet the game will be released about the same time. If it is SWBF3 it may have new maps, races, and classes based on the TV series. Maybe even a back story like SWBF2 had with the 501st line.

[Rdaug27]

8O Norm with that wisdom again lol. Great stuff and your probably right. Make no mistake, its LA keeping stuff under wraps, not Free Radical or Day 1 Studios, or whoever else they have working on any LA project. Lucas was secretive about his movies, so I expect his games to be the same way how ever infuriated that makes us lol.

[Zabka]

You have to remember that Lusas wants to put out a Star Wars TV show within the next year or two. If I had to play the odds I bet the game will be released about the same time. If it is SWBF3 it may have new maps, races, and classes based on the TV series. Maybe even a back story like SWBF2 had with the 501st line.

I was under the impression that the TV show was on the backburner since he is working on getting Indy4 done as well as the 3-D versions of Star Wars.

But the backstory thing is VERY much a likely element.

[EagleOne]

Didn't want to start a new thread but I found Another article which also confirms the release but also what year

BattleFront 3

[Kamui]

Man....watch E3 this year(if it happens) and boom SWBF3 and that silly announcer voice"Star wars battlefront 3 buy it on your XBOX360 and P-S-3 system!"
Maybe all of our desires for the SWBF series will finally be fulfilled since if Free Radical really does this game then it'll be good more then likely and maybe they will implement a mapmaker mode in it like they have last FR game I played was Timesplitters 3 so I don't know about their games now a days.
Me personally What I liked about SWBF1 was the maps and the fact that we have ships flying overheard and battling.Also liked the effect vehicles had in that game.When the blasts hit the ground you know you were dead.
With SWBF2 it felt as if things were lacklusters and it was a quickly developed game.This was problaby due to the fact that LA wanted pandemic to be done with the development of SWBF2 so that it can be shipped and manufactured at the same time as Episode 3.The fact that Jedi Assault was only one map on the PS2 just leaves the evidence that they didn't take enough time on this.
Both were great in my book,but to be honest I spent more time on SWBF1 than on SWBF2.With SWBF3 i'm going to say that i'm a fool for looking forward to this since SWBF2 was a let down,but at least i'll give it a chance.