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Well, not loopholes really, just any way in which a particular law can be avoided, nullified, made un-enforcible, etc....
Post here any annoying laws and "ways-around-them" if you know, if not I'll be happy to keep myself occupied by searching the law for you guys. Just wait another 3 years and I'll be acting legal counsel of DSA. (anyone else here a lawyer/law-student?)
---I know that I plan to have my own office one day (for my own business) and the NY State indoor smoking laws kinda ruin that dream of mine. I smoke, I like to smoke, I know what it does to me, and hell... I didn't even start till I was 18 and it was legal to buy 'em.
I want to have my office and have a god damn cigarette while doing work, and even if its my business the "law" says I can't. A pox on the law I say! In NY State the only way I'd be able to light one up in my "non-food/booze related" business would be if:
-My business is a Non-profit with no employees (just volunteers)
-10% or more of the annual income of the business is from retail tobacco sales (I may just open a window to the street so I could sell cigarettes.
-My business has no employees. Because the law specifically states that smoking would be banned in places of employment (as defined below), I will be able to smoke if my business does not meet the defined criteria:
"Place of employment" means any indoor area or portion thereof under the control of an employer in which employees of the employer perform services, and shall include, but not be limited to, offices, school grounds, retail stores, banquet facilities, theaters, food stores, banks, financial institutions, factories, warehouses, employee cafeterias, lounges, auditoriums, gymnasiums, restrooms, elevators, hallways, museums, libraries, bowling establishments, employee medical facilities, rooms or areas containing photocopying equipment or other office equipment used in common, and company vehicles.
------>> Well, what if I need employees but want to smoke? The only loophole I can think of is as follows:
NY State Smoking Law
When I get around to it I'll start reconstructing other laws and point out where they can be circumvented/exploited. (warning though... nothing here is a guarantee)
And my question to you:
Post here any annoying laws and "ways-around-them" if you know, if not I'll be happy to keep myself occupied by searching the law for you guys. Just wait another 3 years and I'll be acting legal counsel of DSA. (anyone else here a lawyer/law-student?)
---I know that I plan to have my own office one day (for my own business) and the NY State indoor smoking laws kinda ruin that dream of mine. I smoke, I like to smoke, I know what it does to me, and hell... I didn't even start till I was 18 and it was legal to buy 'em.
I want to have my office and have a god damn cigarette while doing work, and even if its my business the "law" says I can't. A pox on the law I say! In NY State the only way I'd be able to light one up in my "non-food/booze related" business would be if:
-My business is a Non-profit with no employees (just volunteers)
-10% or more of the annual income of the business is from retail tobacco sales (I may just open a window to the street so I could sell cigarettes.
-My business has no employees. Because the law specifically states that smoking would be banned in places of employment (as defined below), I will be able to smoke if my business does not meet the defined criteria:
"Place of employment" means any indoor area or portion thereof under the control of an employer in which employees of the employer perform services, and shall include, but not be limited to, offices, school grounds, retail stores, banquet facilities, theaters, food stores, banks, financial institutions, factories, warehouses, employee cafeterias, lounges, auditoriums, gymnasiums, restrooms, elevators, hallways, museums, libraries, bowling establishments, employee medical facilities, rooms or areas containing photocopying equipment or other office equipment used in common, and company vehicles.
------>> Well, what if I need employees but want to smoke? The only loophole I can think of is as follows:
If the business is registered as an Limited Liability Company (LLC) then it would be possible to "hire" someone by making them a "member" which makes them part of the ownership of the company, and thus not an employee. And, who by definition would have to own a part of the company (determined by # of "units" owned), but it could be an insignificant amount without "voting-rights"). Yes, the "employee" would have to be in on this scheme and their "pay-check" would either be erratic or a result of laundering money through other channels (choose one). Although its more of a "loop-maze" than a loophole, a business would be able to hire additional staff and be able to smoke tobacco in the office.
*This also applies to an S-Class Corporation, but the "employees" would have to be paid in shares of the company. Shares = Units (they use two words for essentially the same thing for the two types of business entities).NY State Smoking Law
When I get around to it I'll start reconstructing other laws and point out where they can be circumvented/exploited. (warning though... nothing here is a guarantee)
And my question to you:
What other annoying laws, & possible loopholes, you guys faced with at all?
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