Home Security.....What You Packing....?

[RageProphetXIII]

Would you then rip their stomach out and wear it as a hat?

What would you do next? Call the cops? Bury the body? Do tell!

GeeZ rommel is this you sadistic side...

I think most of us here feel, it is necessary to protect ourselves and our home.

[Rommel]

It's just that everybody here is saying that if someone were to rob you, your likely response would be to protect yourself by killing the robber.

Personally, I would never even think about killing someone for something so minor, and so when someone says that if a robber breaks into their home, that they will shoot them, I find that fascinating, intriguing, and all such things.

Unless it's internet speak and you're joking, which is very possible but would make me look like an ass, especially after typing this reply.

Good day! :)

[Ditch]

It's just that everybody here is saying that if someone were to rob you, your likely response would be to protect yourself by killing the robber.

Personally, I would never even think about killing someone for something so minor, and so when someone says that if a robber breaks into their home, that they will shoot them, I find that fascinating, intriguing, and all such things.

Unless it's internet speak and you're joking, which is very possible but would make me look like an ass, especially after typing this reply.

Good day! :)

no, I would first interview the person and ask why they were breaking into my house and that their childhood was like and what they wished they would be when they grew up, then I would ask "so if you found my young daughter or wife what would you have done to them if I was'nt here?
NO I would end the person as soon as they came illegally into my home, then I would call a lawyer and the cops (just like Ted Kennedy, but he waited a few hours)

[RageProphetXIII]

It's just that everybody here is saying that if someone were to rob you, your likely response would be to protect yourself by killing the robber.

Personally, I would never even think about killing someone for something so minor, and so when someone says that if a robber breaks into their home, that they will shoot them, I find that fascinating, intriguing, and all such things.

Unless it's internet speak and you're joking, which is very possible but would make me look like an ass, especially after typing this reply.

Good day! :)

Personally I'd try and scare them. Or more likely I'd try and capture them but, most of the time when someone is breaking into your home their intentions are alway going to be to not get caught..or to leave no witnesses.

Unfortunately you'd have someone like what happen to this Chem student. Where they guy out of frustration will most likely lounge at you, leaving you no other choice but to protect yourself and your family. It's only natural.

What I find interesting is how everyone reacts to the fantasy of and intruderin the same way......protect my family, at all cost.

[Rommel]

no, I would first interview the person and ask why they were breaking into my house and that their childhood was like and what they wished they would be when they grew up, then I would ask "so if you found my young daughter or wife what would you have done to them if I was'nt here?
NO I would end the person as soon as they came illegally into my home, then I would call a lawyer and the cops (just like Ted Kennedy, but he waited a few hours)

All joking aside, that's what the Chem Student did:

Rice [the robber] was crouching beneath a counter, police said. The student asked him what he was doing and threatened to call police.

"When he said that, the suspect lunged at him, kind of forced the kid against the wall, and he struck him with the sword," Guglielmi said.

That's what I would do, except I would call the police first, then warn the robber. I would not just grab a weapon and kill the robber, because the robber is still another human being(even if he is a 49-year old repeat offender) and I happen to treat human beings differently than the way I treat, say, a rabid German Shephard.

[Rommel]

I would also like to add that my reaction would be very different of course if I had a family to take care of. But the article doesn't mention that. It only mentions that the student lived with 3 other students. If I had a family, then I will probably do what you say and just "end them."

Even so, I'm morally still not sure that killing by self-defense is acceptable. At the very least, it needs to be treated on a case-by-case basis, and to me just killing someone because they enter your property is wrong. What if what you thought was a robber was a drugged girl scout? Would you be justified in killing her? Probably. Should you? That's what I want to know.

[keyser28146]

If I'm asleep and the front door to my house is kicked open, I would not hesitate to open fire/stab/choke/whatever it takes to defend myself and my property.

I didn't create the situation, but I will deal with it... I am not going to assume it's some unarmed person that's just hungry. That's not what the law says, it's not what the police do, and the only time to have a dialog about it with the person is BEFORE they ever resort to crime. THIS is the time their family, loved ones, etc should be helping the person in question, once they commit to a course of action, they risk a reaction.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have whatever conversation they are going to have on the way to hospital, the jail, or the courthouse. I don't care what the motive or needs are, everyone would like to be better off financially, but once you commit yourself to a course of action, and put me in the victim seat, I have 2 options, allow you to victimize someone less able to defend themselves, or prevent you from doing so.

As far as my personal views, it is far more immoral to allow a criminal to continue victimizing a community than it is to put a stop to it, even if the "stop" causes an emotional hardship on the criminal's family or my own conscience in retrospect.

[Rommel]

As far as my personal views, it is far more immoral to allow a criminal to continue victimizing a community than it is to put a stop to it, even if the "stop" causes an emotional hardship on the criminal's family or my own conscience in retrospect.

That's definitely the point of view of the majority of America, that's for sure. It's also the reason why capital punishment is supported. Obviously, I'm against it.

I'll just leave it here because these things always end in conflict and insults. Peace! :)

[keyser28146]

I'm unsure of where I stand on Capital punishment.

While I do think some people are incapable of reformation, I'm not sure how I feel about the state executing them, but that's a convo for a different thread...

I think when a criminal is killed in the act of committing a crime then that's cool... I think it's perfectly acceptable for the state to deprive someone of their freedom for being criminals, but am unsure of how I feel about the state depriving them of their life.

[cmj75]

[QUOTE=keyser28146;159674]If I'm asleep and the front door to my house is kicked open, I would not hesitate to open fire/stab/choke/whatever it takes to defend myself and my property.
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You would be charged for that though.
Defending oneself in the manner that everyone is describing in this post is not realistic...we may think we could respond a certain way when threatened but possessing a gun and especially a sword (seriously wtf is an average person going to do in a small confined space like a home with a sword) in the home isn't necessarily going to make one safer. First off, most people who break into a home are going to rob the house and you can't go down guns blazing, so legally there are issues there. If someone is breaking into your home with the intention of killing you..the vast majority of people will never be able to do anything to stop them. There was a great editorial story on I believe Primetime (I forget which one) where they showed how average people and even those who logged in several hours at a gun range would respond if they were attacked. They did this after that Nursing home shooting and another school shooting I believe. They had those individuals sitting in a classroom with other people and had someone come in with a weapon. The focus of the exercise was to see if they would be able to successfully defend themselves. Yeah didn't go very well. Unless you are a trained professional who has practiced those scenarios multiple times then you are most likely going to make it worse. Now I am not saying I wouldn't defend my family at all costs. Of course I would since I have a wife and two kids but I will never own a gun in my house. I don't know what the stats are but I believe more die or are injured in accidental cases then from someone coming in your home. Wasn't that one of the arguments they made in Freakanomics (can't quite remember). One of the biggest problems with this issue and discussion is that our view of crime is so distorted by the media and annectdotal (sp) stories.

[keyser28146]

I wouldn't be charged... not according to my police friends... not in this state/county.

[cmj75]

I stand corrected Keyser. if in your home you can go guns blazing regardless. but you cannot chase out of the house and shoot outside the house..drag the body in big guy!

[keyser28146]

Drag the body in is EXACTLY what they said... jokingly of course.

[Crono]

Ironically, I'm from around the area where this occurred. My younger brother goes to Hopkins, and his birthday is coming up.

I am very seriously considering getting him a katana for his birthday.

;-)

[Zabka]

I spent 13 mos in bawlmore. Some rough areas for sure.