New Router?

[thedooku]

That's odd. Maybe the router is bricked. Only thing let to try is a hard reset. Hold in the reset button for half a minute and power it off and turn it back on. See if you can access it through the browser then. If not have fun getting a new router. ;)

I did try the hard reset button a couple times last night before giving up. I don't know if my ISP problem bricked it, or my attempts at repairing my connection....but either way, l'll be picking up a new one after work.

Thanks a lot for your help gentlemen, much appreciated. :D

[RaTix]

Yeah if a hard reset doesn't work, I think it's bricked too.

If getting a new one, personally I don't like DLinks. But it's just that, my personal opinion on it.

[norm]

I haven't had much experience with D Link so I can't comment. I have a Linksys and it's close to the same model as yours. Once I updated the firmware to a third party it it helped a lot with some of the issues I have had. That's one reason why I like the Linksys.

I would look at what Sony recommends for the PS3, what you currently have and what you may have in the future. Come up with a couple of choices and go to some place like Newegg and read through the reviews. Ratix knows a lot more about routers then I do so he's a good source to ask. He deals with them a lot more then most people do..lol

[mrpappy2u]

I am curious how this has all worked out , I am getting close to being in the same boat. My modem is at least 10 plus years old and it then goes via ethernet to my apple router that is only a few years old but still out of date. I would like to go from a modem router combo and hard wire to my ps3 to improve my signal ( i only get 45-65 on the signal right now ) I would love to stay with the apple products but they do not sell a combo unit. I am trying to figure out my choices right now. I want to buy some good quality stuff and do not have a clue as what to get. If I want to stay with a apple router I need to buy the $180.00 unit so I can have the e-net in/out to hard wire to the PS3
But then I have to buy a seperate modem I would think that a all in one unit would be a better way to go ? WHO WANTS TO HELP ME NOW ??

[norm]

Do you own your modem or is it one you get from your ISP?

[thatgirlkim]

oh hell I think we are all in the same boat with needing a new router.... I'm getting sick of switching my line back and forth from the xbox to the modem....

[norm]

Here you go Kim, This is a list of router's from Microsoft that have been tested.

Tested Routers

[mrpappy2u]

"Do you own your modem or is it one you get from your ISP?"

We own it

[norm]

You know I don't have a lot of experience with modems as far as buying them. Does Sony have a list like Micrsoft does about comparable hardware? That's always a good first place to start.

I bet Ratix knows more about this than I do.



Till he responds a good place to start is Newegg and reading through some of the reviews there. Cnet is also a good place to visit for reviews.

It's a start and I'm sorry I can't help you more than that.

[thedooku]

I never did give a follow up on this, sorry. I ended up getting the Dlink I mentioned on the first page and I'm satisfied. The setup was less intuitive than the previous Linksys I had and the "Setup Wizard" was completely useless to me. As mentioned, I have an older laptop which has an older wireless card that is only capable of WEP encryption. So my fancy new Wireless-N router does nothing to improve my wireless speed. Also, no noticable improvement in my wired to PS3 connection, which is expected since my ISP limits the shit out of my connection. So, I replaced a router that was bricked and that's about it so far. I've paid for Wireless-N and Gigabit ethernet, but don't have a desktop or laptop capable of either at the moment Guess I was future proofing, as I plan to build/get a newer one of each this year.

So, Pappy, I wish I could provide you more advice or reviews, but that's about the extent of my experience on the subject. Norm's advice looks good, I'd look around for "recommended" modems. For simple home network and gaming purposes, I don't think you'll find much difference between quality routers these days, but anyone more knowledgeable may differ. Just remember, if you're going wireless, your encryption is limited to the least common denominator (oldest wireless device connected). If you're going wired, your ISP is likely limiting your speeds more than your router would. Just my 2cents. Wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong if I am ;)

[mrpappy2u]

Thanks !!
I think part of my issue is that at anyone time we may have 3-4 computers competing for the same signal. The desk tops and laptops do ok but I think my PS3 signal sucks ( i am sure that this is why I just keep getting worse at warhawk .....lol). How about this question. If I up date my modem can I run the enet from it to a swiching unit and then from that to my PS3 and ALSO out to the wireless ?
Hope that makes sense.

[RaTix]

I'm going to try and refrain from making any Cider here (Apple Bashing, HA). Just curious as to why your looking at Apple modem/router over others? You might be able to find other combo modem/routers from linksys, netgear, D-link, etc.. for a lot cheaper then apple products.

**Researching...


OK, I assume your referring to the Apple Airport Extreme. Basically it's a 4 port router, with Gigabit LAN and WAN.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC340/AirPort-Extreme

Well depending on your ISP and networking needs, it might be overkill. It's comparable to the Linksys WRT320N

Or the Linksys WRT610N.

Neither are combos though. And Combos are usually more so in DSL services these days becau emost cable providers give VOIP type Modems. It all really depends on what type of service you have (DSL/Cable/Fiber). And speed of the service.

The highest Residential service you can get around here, Tri-state Metro NY, is 100Mbps. Which is about $100 a month. The next level down is Boost, which is 35Mbps @ $39.95/mo. Basic is 10 or 15Mbps @ 29.95/mo.
Calculate in the Router's Throughput, how fast it can convert the incoming/outgoing data into packets (NAT), and the 35Mbps of the Boost service is more like 28Mbps. Which is a download speed of ~3.5MB.
Standard 100M (as opposed to 1000M = Gigabit) can handle 12.5MB. More then capable of handling the traffic. It could even handle up to about 50Mbps ISP/WAN connection, which is 6.5MB.

Unless your running a business, and a fairly good (mid) sized company, You really don't need gigabit WAN. And even gigabit LAN isn't needed for most household things. Unless you have everything networked and transfer a lot of files around, like streaming movies from the PC to PS3/360/(or XBMC), 100m LAN is fine.

Check on NewEgg and you can pick up a decent router for cheap. Then depending on ISP, contact them for upgrade.


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On the Modem -> Router -> Switch idea. Some low end switches (not hubs) will forward ports improperly. Like those needed to be open for the 360 or PS3.
The 360 needs port 88 open. If going through a switch first, the switch might take the info on port 88, but send it to the router on port 500. Especially if something else is trying to use port 88 at that same time. So when the router gets the info on port 500, it forwards to the WAN on the same wrong port.

The less jumps the signal has to make, the less chance for things to go wrong.

[mrpappy2u]

I need to go bak and read your response, But I need to say that apple doesn't make a router / modem combo and that to make what I want to work I would need the extreme base station like you said because it has more than 1 enet outlet. Now as far as the apple usage, I have been using Apple products for over 20 years starting my first hot one we bought when I 1st started my business it had a 40 MEG ( yes MEG.) hard drive and 4 megs of memory, plus a color card with a 14 in color monitor and we even had a laser printer, just for historical perspective I paid over $1800.00 for my first scanner. My point is I have always used macs and the software I use was not even made for dos at that time, over all those years whether by luck or ? I have NEVER LOST ANY INFORMATION nor lost any hard drives , have always had fantastic product support, never a bugs or worm. when I buy a new mac it asks ... do you have a mac ? if so plug it in . I DO and all my stuff is transfered ....just like that. I did try a DELL one time mainly to play a motor cross video game but never liked it. I could go on but I am just a old am stuck in a rut. Just so you know I am laughing a little so I am not trying to sound like how dare you ask that , I just thought I would tell you . The last time I tried to do this I did by a high end unit (maybe a links or ? ) but the software would not load and when I called the product support they could not tell me why it would not work. I am open to another brand and am think I would like to get a COMBO unit .

Now I am going to go back and read your post. And thank you for wanting to help. No really I mean it .


Thanks Guys this is always fun.

[mrpappy2u]

My internet needs , I print tee shirts and send and receive emails daily some as high as 40 megs from the likes of photoshop , Freehand and illustrator. I now have a older base station extreme and a express as a bridge. We have DSL here now , we may or may not be changing over to cable , not sure though if it worth it. Sounds like I would be best to stay away from the switch idea and get a router than can export out to the ps3 directly and send the signal out to the other computers wirelessly. As far as the speed thing I do not have a clue what we are running. it is the only thing avail here. We are with ATT on the internet stuff and I feel lucky with that because we have had access to the dsl for I think well over 10 years. about as old as my modem is now. i will check out the site you all have mentioned. Again like I said my main intent here is to try and get a better signal for the PS3.

Thanks

[mrpappy2u]

OK I just did the test @ the speedtest.net site

no so good . 2.53mb/s download
up was .40 mb/s
ping 27ms all @ 50 miles